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<Ann>
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 PayPal CLAIMS to fight chargebacks, but read this...
Sent: 12-22-2005 00:48
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PaypalSucks, Paypal sucks, they're so unfair to sellers. They have full access to your personal funds at anytime and they choose what to do with them. When a dispute is submitted from a buyer, they'll take unautherized funds from your account and refund buyer without first, getting to the bottom line. I've had so many problems with paypal, therefor I will never use them again. PAYPAL SUCKS! and they're scams. Extremely bad customer service

 

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<1stCrgeBack>
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 PayPal CLAIMS to fight chargebacks, but read this...
Sent: 12-21-2005 10:32
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Well I have been using ebay for about 2 yearss and paypal for about 2 months. Customer brought an item off me, paid through paypal, received it and signed for delivery. Has been arguing with me for several weeks saying it's not her signature, even though it was her address. Saying item was never receved. Paypay have taken back the $300 off me and those funds are now pending the outcome of this.

I am faxing them proof of postage and proof of delivery.

Hoping she doesnt' get my money back as she clearly has the item !

 

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<Sephiroth73>
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Sent: 12-21-2005 03:53
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ref31, When a chargeback happens, it doesn't limit the seller's account. It simply places a hold on the funds involved (and ONLY those funds) until the matter is sorted out. If a chargeback is granted, the funds are reversed. The sellers account is still open and fully able to send and receive funds as normal.

That is absolute BS. When I got a $14.75 chargeback on my account they locked up $198.32. Luckily when I sent the tracking info with proof of delivery. It was immediatly unlocked. (3 days total.)

 

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<icedragn43>
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Sent: 12-20-2005 14:06
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PaypalSucks, I can tell you that they do in fact dispute chargebacks. They declined my chargeback eventhough I was ripped off by the seller and the seller could not be contacted. Paypal even lied to me about the reasons I was denied my chargeback. this is is a direct quote from an email that I received: "The seller has provided information that they have sent replacement merchandise to
you.". Of course I never did receive anything (over three weeks now), and the official reason stated in the denial by my credit card company was that I still had the Junk that was sent.

 

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<icedragn43>
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Sent: 12-20-2005 14:05
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PaypalSucks, I can tell you that they do in fact dispute chargebacks. They declined my chargeback eventhough I was ripped off by the seller and the seller could not be contacted. Paypal even lied to me about the reasons I was denied my chargeback. this is is a direct quote from an email that I received: "The seller has provided information that they have sent replacement merchandise to
you.". Of course I never did receive anything (over three weeks now), and the official reason stated in the denial by my credit card company was that I still had the Junk that was sent.

They didn't fight for me... i sold a satellite receiver on eBay and 1 year later, maybe more, and yes you heard me right.. OVER A YEAR LATER, she did a chargeback and now i was left owing paypal $130... Paypals response was along the lines of "we did all we could, but the credit card companys fight hard and don't take no for an answer" some bs like that, but long story short she said i'm ****ed, then asked me to put money into the account... HAHAAHAHAAH YA RIGHT, so I just changed my account number and said to hell with you guys. Then i got some papers saying i have to pay within 30 days, i got about 3 of these LOLZ, i just throw them in the garbage... funny thing is that i wasn't 18 at the time of signup, making my paypal transactions void and such since i couldn't have possible entered a legally binding contract as a minor. Anyways, I did make sure of this with a lawyer and I'm in the clear, so I just have a good laugh whenever i got a new notice telling my I had to pay :), **** you paypal, **** you in your stupid ass.

Also about your "declined chargeback", why would paypal have a choice? You phone up your credit card company, tell them you never got the good's or w/e the reason is, it will cost like $15, and you will get your money back. Paypal can't do anything, sure as hell didn't to the **** that STOLE my satellite receiver... because that's what it is, THEFT!!! Bastards...

P.S. if you guys don't have word filters, just edit the swears out.

 

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stressed
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 PayPal CLAIMS to fight chargebacks, but read this...
Sent: 12-20-2005 02:57
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PaypalSucks, ya right i have been going throug a dispute for a harley softail frame i bought i got the frame but it was not even close to what i was supposed to get so pay pal did there so caled investigation told me to send the frame back and they may return my money but the return address was a po box you cant send an item that size to a po box and that means no tracking # i sent about 10 emails and told paypal this and called 4 or 5 times to get a proper addres since the guy i bought it from would not respond so my claim was timed out and i got nothing now they say they are going to reveiw it i am going to close my bank acount that they have registered and call visa and see if i can get my money back .i figure if my bank acount does not exist any more they cant freeze it any advise

 

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Sent: 12-18-2005 19:29
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<Greg>
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Sent: 12-18-2005 13:28
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DeepSouth, I was a victim of a fraudulent seller. I filed claim wrong--thinking I was on Ebay--and said "not as described".

BIG MISTAKE. ALWAYS PUT "NEVER RECEIVED IN THE FIRST PLACE."

IT'S SIMPLE. I DON'T HAVE PRODUCT (EVEN CRAPPY PRODUCT) AND I DON'T HAVE MONEY. PAYPAL DOESN'T CARE IF SELLER IS A FRAUD. LOOK AT DAYD11. I'M NOT ONLY ONE. PAYPAL SAYS YOU HAVE ONE SHOT AT CLAIM...AND NO DIALOGUE. AND EVEN THOUGH I MADE MISTAKE (TRUSTING ADVERTISING) I'M WRONG AGAIN FOR TRUSTING PAYPAL'S ADVERTISING AND BUYERS' PROTECTION.

WHAT A CROCK-OF-CRAP.

 

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gamya
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 PayPal CLAIMS to fight chargebacks, but read this...
Sent: 12-15-2005 17:32
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Hallo, i m italian and i m scammed from paypal for a chargeback! I sold my item and AFTER 3 MONTHS the buyer done a chargeback!!! Paypal refund her after 15 days and i never back mt item!!!!! Bastards!!! I lost many money!!!

 

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<Jill>
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Sent: 12-15-2005 15:03
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<helene oba>,
From reading your email, it's confirmed that PayPal employs illiterate people with no more than a 4th grade education. These are the people in charge of our transactions. It's frightening!

 

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<ErXoN>
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Sent: 12-13-2005 01:42
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Paypal is dangerous and looking out for themself and not the buyer or the seller. They take your money and even if you never receive the item, submit proof and make telephone calls to them they will not give you back the money if the seller lies and sold you tangable goods. Paypal is part of eBay. eBay allows people to sell tangable goods and other type of goods, take the money and never give you the item. BE CAREFUL OF BOTH EBAY AND PAYPAL. THEY TAKE YOUR MONEY AND NEVER HELP YOU. THEY WERE CAUGHT BEFORE AND PUNISHED BY THE JUDGE. THIS TIME BOTH PAYPAL AND EBAY SHOULD BE CLOSED FOR GOOD.
so, where to buy then used items? huh?

 

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<ErXoN>
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Sent: 12-12-2005 06:24
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Im new to paypal and I can't even imagine that paypal could do that.
so, what to now? on ebay all ppl uses only paypal or cheque and so on, onle few ppl accept moneybookers.com (its more populated for europe ppl), what else? escrow, bidpay? I think it's sux.

and it seems all ok, but admins use a paypals fraud for his own systems population. I think its not correctly acordint to the users. its like: u see, paypal is bad, so use our system and all be ok. but its a question: do it really all be ok? paypal is saying that all be ok too.

ie I'll use http://www.995merchantaccounts.com/ but what to do with it on ebay? nobody use it, nobody accept it, what's then? where to buy used items? huh?

dilema.

 

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<Common Sense>
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Sent: 12-08-2005 12:56
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<Nezura>, You can sue Paypal, they will take you seriously then. Paypal uses ANY excuse to freeze accts and access money. No matter what their emails or employees say to you on the phone, the bottom line is it will end with them trying to keep your funds. The more people take legal action against them, the less profitable it will be for them. Read thru the horror stories here and you will begin to see a disturbing pattern!

 

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Debbiemyers
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 WRONG NUMBER!!!!!
Sent: 12-08-2005 12:41
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The emergency or Urgent Number is wrong. I don't know what the real number is but the 402-490-9749 belongs to someone who is not connected with PayPal in any way.

 

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xppman
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 PayPal CLAIMS to fight chargebacks, but read this...
Sent: 12-08-2005 11:00
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<Nezura>,
The whole "protect me from fraud" BS from PP and ebay is just that.

It's all just marketing for them SMOKE AND MIRRORS and they KNOW they are losing market share and have been for the last couple of years.

Most people I talked to don't even buy on ebay anymore because of the fact that ebay has become SCAM CENTRAL. ebay knows it and so do savvy buyers and sellers.

People you got to wise up.
the only true "protection" for any of us out their is common sense.

A couple questions Nezura:
Are you in contact with the buyer?
Does the buyer know PayPal is holding his funds?

Sorry this happen to you.

 

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